The James Gleeson oral history collection
James Gleeson interviews Australia's major artists
Circa 1979 [unknown location]
James Gleeson: Well now, let’s go to some of your graphic work. We haven’t, I don’t think, got any of your watercolours in the collection at the moment. So one day in future I’ll have to come back to you when we get one of those. But we do have a number of graphic works. These three are what? Now that’s Carnival ’59. Oh, here’s the earliest one, Children with fish 1958. From our card, it’s a coloured woodcut on cream paper. It’s No. 5 of an edition of 15, executed in 1958. Is that correct?
Eva Kubbos: That’s right, yes. That should be correct, yes.
James Gleeson: Is two colours right?
Eva Kubbos: Yes. This one?
James Gleeson: Yes.
Eva Kubbos: I think that was two colours, but is that here? I’m not too sure. Or did the colour not come off? Because I had this, I did a few proofs, artists proofs in black and white, and then I did a few in colours, I remember, in two colours.
James Gleeson: I see. Yes.
Eva Kubbos: Yes.
James Gleeson: That means what, two blocks?
Eva Kubbos: Yes, two blocks. Yes, I always do, you know, blocks.
James Gleeson: A separate block for each colour?
Eva Kubbos: Yes, for each colour block, a separate block.
James Gleeson: You’ve never been interested in, say, the technique that Margaret Preston used of hand colouring block?
Eva Kubbos: No, no, I have never hand coloured blocks. No.
James Gleeson: Ah huh.
Eva Kubbos: I thought I might do it one day, but I’ve never done it yet.
James Gleeson: I see. Good. Now, Carnival is the next one chronologically, 1959. Fairly related, I suppose?
Eva Kubbos: Yes, that’s right. At that time, you see, I was sort of involved with figures, I did quite a few woodcuts and linocuts in figuration. In fact, real figures.
James Gleeson: The expressionistic background is still very much—
Eva Kubbos: That’s right. That’s right, very apparent.